, voting for anything that can be perceived as a tax increase. well, what the president is talking about even scaled down version is definitely raising taxes. and raising taxes on people making $250,000 or more, at least households, so that's going to be difficult to do. that's why reality check here, talking to democrats and republicans, it seems as though they're going through the motions, that they're going to talk about talking when they get back and get back from the holiday and at this point both sides are saying that they are pretty confident we're going it on go over the fiscal cliff. >> and the president i thought had a weird moment, jessica, in his remarks where he started talking about everyone should have egg nog and christmas cookies and then think about what they're going to do before they think about coming back to doing some kind of deal before we go over that cliff. we're talking about ten days there. do you really think there is time for all of that? >> there is time to get a deal done. there is always time in washington because